just like ebola.ainst ebola helped the commuity understand th f we could alht against other diseases, just by washing our hands. that's so satisfying for us. >> reporter: the world health organization nes that many more congolese are now trained on the treatment of infectious diseases tha theirork during the ebola crisis. one of them is nurse kavira kavota. >> ( translated ): a lot of foreigners me here with their own experience and they trained us. in the event of a new outbreak, we'll be able to take charge of the response ourselves. >> reporter: frontline healt workers like kavota are going but theyear toe on the. verge of oneictory, at least r now. >> reenivasan: what we learned from the ebola outbreak, between 2014 and 2016 helped lay the groundwork for the more recent respoadnse to the less epemic in the democratic republic of congo. but, as we've just heard, pandemics are hard to contain for a nuber of reasons. lauren baer was senior advisor to secretary of state hillary clinton during the obam

in the ebola virus was there and there was a case of ebola. two days into that, five other people got infected because of contact and now they are tracing the contacts. the outbreak will take another two days before it can be declared over. was we did in west africa you look at ebola, we knew that we were not out of the woods until sierra leone got there outbreak over with. it's about five years now and we not -- we have not a single case of ebola in the region. to reopen these things, we have epidemic,p with the been the curve and get to zero. that's how it can work. it is possible within a couple of months to get that done because we can do systematic tracing combined with social distancing and handwashing and other things, that could get us to zero. the permanent solution is vaccine or therapeutics. host: nova in danbury, connecticut? yes, i would just like to say that trump is doing a good job. i love trump but let's bring back america. happiness.o pursue right now, we are in a crisis worldwide. amish.ring back the let's think about what n

fauci: this is the ugly ebola. this is what ebola looks like.s called filovirus because it's like a thread. filo, the latin word for thread. in 1995, there was an outbreak in the democratic republic of the congo. a person who survived ebola, this man here, came to the nih. we took his b-cells, we cloned the b-cells, and we made the monoclonal antibody, which means we made his cells produce an antibody, in large amounts, that actually binds to this lipoprotein right here. david: right. dr. fauci: now, this antibody, as we're speaking, is being tested in the democratic republic of the congo as one of the potential treatments for ebola. david: so if somebody comes to me and says, "i had ebola and i'm ok now," it's ok to shake their hand? dr. fauci: oh, yeah. david: they're safe? dr. fauci: well, you may remember when we discharged the young nurse who got infected in texas, and i discharged her from the n.i.h. and we had a press conference, and i put my arm around her and hugged her, and it made the front page of "the washington post." the reason i

ebola since 1976. we've known about the science of ebola since 1976 and i had the opportunity to help support that science in 19 -- mid-1990's when i did ebola outbreak in zair. what happens, you get infected probably with a bat. if you're out way in the bush you die 85 to 95% of people die. unfortunately maybe a family member or two would die with you but you're out in the middle of the bush, you're done. let's say you change the dynamic and you decide to go seek health care in a hospital. unfortunately on hospital that doesn't have infection control. so when you're infected with ebola you essentially become a virus factory and you get infected and if your immune system doesn't kick in you're kicking the virus and when do you have the most possible virus in your body? when you die, as you go to the hospital because you're sick and you don't have more than when you die, okay, i can give you a 10 with lots of big numbers around it meaning hundreds of millions of billions that happened to be in the middl

i think people will want to know about ebola and so i have the opportunity to write about ebola and update the book in the general so the second edition came out in 2015 and there i made sure that there will be ebola. that ebola outbreak was something we had never seen before. ebola had first emerged in 1976 but it was relatively small outbreak effecting just a few hundred people in various parts of central africa and then it looks like in december 2013 there was -- probably the first person to get sick in the new outbreak that was in west africa and it really didn't sort of become something people were aware of until spring 2014 and then by october 2014 it hit its peak. actually it wasn't until june 2016 that the last case was recorded so we had just a few months without a case of ebola and west africa and this is been years of an outbreak there way bigger than anything before and there were over 28000 cases over 11000 people died so it's 40% mortality rate and that is pretty terrifying. and i mean, i don't know what jim's thoughts are on it but this was -- this was an opportunity to see

you spread ebola from patient to patient. hospitals always served as a reservoir for how these spread within their communities. somebody sick at home and you as a family member taking care of them, you are at risk. they die, unfortunately, then you decide to wash the body, kissed the body, hug the body, invite the loved ones. one of the practices we saw during this ebola outbreak is they would wash the body and then use that water, to wash their hands and take on the attributes of the same dead person who had just died. this is not a good idea, okay, let's admit that. that is the science. we know the science. when this outbreak occurred 24th, 25th outbreak since 1976 many people thought this will be like east africa, uganda, sees outbreak the time, they shut them down in a couple days, they have a system in place to identify the case. they don't even need international teams anymore, the locals know what to do, they test everybody, they follow everybody was potentially sick and take care of these are brakes quickly. for decem

we have known about ebola since 1976 and we have known about the science of ebola since 1976 and i had the opportunity to help support that science in the mid-1900s in the mid-1990s when we had in the ebola outbreak in zaire. what happens quick to get infected with ebola usually by a bat and if you are out in the bush you died and 5% of people died. unfortunately maybee a family member or two will die with you but if you are out in the bush you are done. let's say you change that dynamic and you decide to get health care in a hospital. unfortunately that hospital doesn't have infection control. when you are infected with theou bali become a virus factory. if your immune system doesn't kick in when you have the most possible viruses in your body when you die. you go to the hospital because you are sick and you don't have were then when you die. i can give you attend with lots of big numbers around and hundreds of millions and billions. here you are sick and dying in the hospital and someone has to wash their hands as they go from patient to patient. what's going to happen quick to sprea

that's way worse than ebola or zika virus. that killed hundreds of millions, maybe billions of people. wiped us out from the planet. if you have the dedication, we can actually fight these things but we can't just ignore them and pretend they will take care of themselves. >> he is a bad cop. i think what is interesting is that we are seeing these new pathogens, they come into the human population and at the beginning, it is really horrible. ... . >> yeah, i'm definitely the good cop in this scenario. i don't want to contradict any of the concerns that carl has raised about the book that i wrote, "i contain multitudes", is about the more beneficial side of the microbial world and i talked about the book i wrote "i contain multitudes" is about the microbial side and i talkow abot microbes have been with us for the longest time. we all live in the microbial world and to this day all of us depend on u microbes were health and development. every human body contains trillions, tens of trillions of bacteria and they help to build our

ebola is a good example of that. we have had ebola outbreak since the 1970s but ebola never had infected a place of more than 100,000 inhabitants before 2013. only in 2013 when it came up in guinea, it had infected three capital cities with a combined population of 3 million. that is really important reason it was a huge conflagration. arguably is eco-virus is also taking advantage of urbanization. we had seek a virus since the 1940s and even before but mostly in equatorial forest in asia and africa and it was carried by a forest mosquito and that forest mosquito mostly bit animals. it didn't bite people that much so people didn't get a lot of zika virus but now zika virus is being carried by a mosquito that specializes in living in human habitations. it can actually breed in a drop of water in a bottle. all our plastic garbage we leave around in our urban areas are perfect environment for this mosquito to breed in and they only bite humans. as soon as zika virus got into that it started to explode. it has expanded r

so when you're infected with ebola, you essentially become fires factory. and you get infected, and if your immune system does not kick in, your increasing the amount of virus every minute die die. so when you have most possible virus anybody. when you die. you go to the hospital because you're sick he did not have more than many die. okay. i can you be ten thoughts of big numbers about it. hundreds of millions of billy is a bacteria in your blood. here you are sick and dying in hospitals and he doess not wash their hands is a go patient patients. it will happen. you are spreading information to patients hospitals have always served and we've known it for many years, it gets amplified. somebody is to get home and use a family member taking care of them, you are at risk. the dog. , unfortunately and then you decide to watch the body, gets a modicum of the body, one of the practices that we saw was that they would watch the body would use the water for little kids and people wash theires hands to take one of the attributes of this person who just died. this i

in the ebola virus was there and there was a case of ebola. two days into that, five other people got infected because of contact and now they are tracing the contacts. the outbreak will take another two days before it can be declared over. was we did in west africa you look at ebola, we knew that we were not out of the woods until sierra leone got there outbreak over with. it's about five years now and we not -- we have not a single case of ebola in the region. to reopen these things, we have epidemic,p with the been the curve and get to zero. that's how it can work. it is possible within a couple of months to get that done because we can do systematic tracing combined with social distancing and handwashing and other things, that could get us to zero. the permanent solution is vaccine or therapeutics. host: nova in danbury, connecticut? yes, i would just like to say that trump is doing a good job. i love trump but let's bring back america. happiness.o pursue right now, we are in a crisis worldwide. amish.ring back the let's think about what n

the ebola virus has seven. we have these immune systems for billions of years and they find a way around it and they are spreading all over the world. what's happening is the there are all these viruses in the animal kingdom and they are basically moving further and further into the systems and disturbing the homes of bats, monkeys and other wildlife and they are finding a new abundant host. i'm not entirely fatalistici amc about this. a couple of psycho, a great fan died. he led to the eradication of smallpox. we wiped it off of the planet and if we have the dedication we can actually fight these things, but we can't just ignore them and pretend they are going to take care of themselves. >> we are going to be kind of good cop bad cop thing. we are seeing these new pathogens that come into the population and of course the beginning is really horrible. it comes into the population to be susceptible with no immunity and you see all the sickness. but what happens over time we get used to certain viruses and start

ebola is a good example of that. before that -- we had ebola outbreaks since the 1970's. but ebola never had infected a place of more than a few inhabitants before 2013. hundred thousand it was only in 2013, when it came up in guinea, within a few weeks of that, it had infected three capital cities with a combined population of nearly 3 million. so that is a really important reason it was such a huge conflagration. and, arguably, zika virus is also taking advantage of urbanization. we have had zika virus probably since 1940's and maybe even before that. in equatorialtly forests in asia and africa. and it was carried by a forest mosquito. and that forest mosquito mostly bit animals. it did not bite people that much. so people did not really get a lot of zika virus. americas,now, in the zika virus is being carried by aedes egypti. this is a mosquito that specializes in living in human habitation. it can actually breed in a drop of water in a bottle cap. so all of our plastic garbage that we leave around in our urban areas are perfect environments for this mosquito to read i

think about sars and mers and zika, ebola. our companies are tapping that vast scientific knowledge to address this current covid-19 crisis. our companies have also invested for years in cutting-edge technologies shortening the amount of time it takes to get from the bench to the bedside, from the preclinical stage to actually having a therapy or vaccine available to patients. you may recall during the sars virus, a decade ago, it took almost two years to get the first candidate vaccine into an trials, whereas today with covid-19, as i said, you already have a few candidate vaccines already in human trials less than two or three months from the first known case. and then finally, as ron mentioned manufacturing is going , to be a key challenge in our alone has industry the unique capability to scale and manufacture any new treatment of vaccine. so in closing, i did want to also mention affordability. i must say our industry is aware of what is at stake in this environment and is deeply committed to providing these new treatment

in the ebola outbreak. how does this pandemic compare ?|i in the ebola outbreak.ave been doing outbreak since 2010. this is, it is very much different. it is the people that are responding and how giant this epidemic is. for ebola, everybody that went to help, they were mainly humanitarians or disaster response people, and for america response, it is anybody who has hands was willing to go and they need the numbers. everybody‘s just trying to do their best. you see what most people are not seeing. they will look out the window and see empty streets and closed shops. you are seeing inside hospitals, inside the front lines. ijust wonder if hospitals, inside the front lines. i just wonder if you hospitals, inside the front lines. ijust wonder if you can explain to our viewers what it is that you see day today. absolutely. we are seeing a lot of the elderly population, people with comorbidities, u nfortu nately, most of people with comorbidities, unfortunately, most of the people are at the end stages of life. they are in the hospital. if you are healthy enough to sta

a good example would be the outbreak of ebola in west africa. we've known about it since 76 and the science since 1976, and i had the opportunity to support a into 1990s when i did this. you get infected anyou've got iy with a bat. if you are out in the bush and w you die 85 to 95% of people by unfortunately maybe a family member or two urls in the middle of the bush, you are done. whalet's say you changed the dynamic and seek healthcare in a hospital. unfortunately they do not have infection control so when you are infected you essentially virus factory. you can infected and if your system doesn't kick in your increasing the amount you are producing every minute until you die so you go to the hospital because you are sick and you don't have more than when you die you. hundreds of millions of billions of them to be in a milliliter of your blood. so here you are dying in the hospital and someone doesn't wash their hands what's going to happen. they've always served and we've known this for many years as a reservoir of a spread in the community. s

i learned about ebola outbreak from the pdb, president obama did i think. he got reports of deaths in africa, reports of outbreak of new form of ebola, then he set up a govern process, interagency group, from nih, cdc, state department, relevant national security agencies to get them working on it. that pdb led to that government process which led to the deployment of thousands of u.s. troops to west african who could facilitate the flow of tens of thousands of health care workers to west african to stamp out that ebola outbreak which killed two people in the united states. pdb is warning to the president of the united states about the most dangerous threats in the world. president trump ignored those warnings, paid no attention to them, clearly instead tried to downplay the virus so the market is would somehow not tank even though the reality is the virus itself was what was going to tank the market is. and tried to keep the numbers down, instead of ramping up testing as he should have in february, tried to keep reporting of the numbers down. ignored the i

kind of ebola virus. in between then and the four or five months that followed, the surge was not prevented in liberia or sierra leone. what happened was the healthcare system was already swept away. it had already been frail and weak. they had gone through war not too long ago and these kind of weakenings of healthcare system tend to be more cataclysmic. but it failed. now right now the city of new york as the doctor said is the epicenter and the city of seattle, thank god is already -- has already seen its peak behind it. we're all celebrating that. if you want to prevent going up a peak of cases, you neath need to think as has been done in seattle. very safe in terms of access to p.p.e. and how many we have coming into the main teaching hospitals. if we look at how to get down from that mountain then more testing, a lot more tracing. olation which is the the ideal, whether it is ebola or kind ox or zika or some of isolation and different forms of transmission and some form of stopping that transmission

president obama learned about the ebola outbreak from the pbd. what he did with the information is set up a government process. let's put together an agency group, people from different relevant agencies, the nih, the cdc and state department involved in national security and get them working on it and that pdb led to that government process which led to the deployment of thousands of u.s. troops to west africa who could facilitate the flow of tens of thousands of health care workers to west africa to stand out that ebola outbreak which killed two people in the united states. the pdb is the warning to the president in the united states about the most dangerous tlhreas in the world. president trump ignored those warnings. he paid no attention to them and what he clearly did is try to down play the virus so that the stock market would somehow not tank. you know the reality is that the virus itself was going to tank the stock market and he tried to keep the numbers down instead of ramping up testing which is what he should have done in february and

and we had about 100 ebola patients. and a handful of national nurses and we were running out of personal protective equipment. and i would never have imagined that five years later, that there would be this scenario where there are places in this country where similar, you know, refrains are being made about personal protective equipment, about just physical resources to help sour patients. host: and we're seeing in so many hotspots, most notably in new york, certainly in boston, the influx in the pressure this is having on hospitals. so what first-hand experiences can you share with our listeners and viewers? guest: yeah. the way that a lot of hospitals have sort of moved in handling this, most hospitals before this epidemic occurred had pandemic preparedness plans. they had to be updated, you know, based on what resources we had currently. they looked at the modeling that's out there and what we've done is we've tried to build -- prepare and build for a surge from a human -- human resources perspective, from health ca

the ebola containment worked, right?on. we can't link all the cases to where they started so if that is the case, that makes everything suspect andng them work ahead of the tidal wave, providing precious hope everything we touch suspect. >> and yet so far the lessons from the deadly ebola outbreak have served them well, helping them work ahead of the tidal wave, providing precious hope and expertise on the front lines. so the folks at emory would be the first to say the peak has not hit them yet it's expected in a couple of weeks and they're stil trying to keep ahead of that curve. they believe they will an interesting note. they said their top six department heads were never allowed to be in the same room for months now because they didn't want -- if one person got it, they didn't want to spread it this was a hospital that was really prepared. they said they also learned a lot from watching what was going on in italy and in new york.>> back to you, hoda. >> a lot of lessons to learn from emory thank you very much. >> ho

remember, this was created for use in ebola.emember back to the ebola epidemic that raged in west africa. ebola is a very different kind of disease. it affects the body in a very different kind of way. this is an antiviral disease. it works on stopping the virus from being able to do what it does in your biology. they have this drug sitting on the shelf and it basically asks, well, it didn't work that well for ebola. does it work well for covid-19? and you know, again, we have some promising anecdotal evidence to suggest that it might. again, this works on the biology of viruses in particular, maybe more effective on this virus than the last one they created it for. >> i want to talk about something we're expecting to see in the next few hours. that's new modeling out of the university of washington. that's the outfit, of course, that has been providing doctors and scientists with the modeling. last night, dr. chris murray, the chair of this, gave us a preview for what this new model is going to look like today across the countr

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. >> fue el primer hospital que recibiÓ enfermo de Ébola en el 2014, con esta experiencia el hospitalntrenado para utilizar correctamente el equipo de protecciÓn personal como no tenÍan suficientes hicieron sus propias careta de plÁstico que protegen mejor que las mÁscaras, y otra acciÓn muy importante. >> tratar de bajar las nivel de angustia y ansiedad para que no tengan la sensaciÓn que pueden llegar a infectarse o infectar a los familiares. >> el 1 de marzo el hospital estaba listo para la batalla y 5 dÍas despuÉs llegÓ el primer paciente con covid-19 y le salvaron la vida, hasta el momento el hospital ha atendido a mÁs de 600 pacientes con covid-19, pero no quisieron dar el nÚmero de personas fallecidas y tampoco cuÁntos de su personal se ha contagiado, hace 5 aÑos el Ébola fue controlado, pero el covid-19 es algo totalmente diferente. >> la lecciÓn del Ébola fue muy valiosa como lo que ha pasado en otros lugares castigados por el covid-19. >> incluso estamos hablando con colegas en nueva york para saber quÉ estÁn haciendo ellos que podemos aprender nosotros. >> rogelio mora-tagl

bigt: i think there is a difference between ebola and the coronavirus. it is really based on how it is transmitted. the challenge with coronavirus is that it is transmitted easily through close contact. you just have to be maybe 10 to 15 minutes in the same space with someone else, within two meters of them to be at risk for getting infected. that is very different from ebola, where you had to actually have physical contact with blood or secretions. that is a very big difference. ebola netission with occurred in this country were largely for health-care workers dealing with very sick patients, and therefore had exposure to their secretions and blood products and so on. i think when you have a respiratory infection like this coronavirus, it is at a different scale completely. contact of it i surfaces come if somebody else had sneezed or coughed on it, but it is transmitted again by close contact with an individual with covid-19. this makes a huge difference, so that you are able to, one person can transmit to many more. one person with covid-19, whether t

that is ebola. dr. craig spencer is on the front lines again in new york fighting coronavirus.s is how he describes his days now. walk in for your 8:00 a.m. shift. you mask up, walk in. nearly every patient is the same, cough, shortness of breath, fever. you're notified of another real li ly sick patient. patients both in the rooms next to each other both getting breathing tubes. it not even 10:00 a.m. yet. you're afraid to actake off the mask. it the only thing that protects you. in africa you spent hours in a hot suit without water. one more patient. joining us now is dr. craig spencer. he's a new york city emergency room doctor and the director of global health. thank you for making time to be with us. >> thank you. >> you've been through your share of things in your not particularly long life. i want to ask what you've seen in new york since the influx of patients started, if it seems like new york is adapting. if clinitians a learning what to do if hospitals are falling apart and getting better how to treat these patients in such distress? >> such an important question. i

amamy: a and ebola. >> and ebola.. must say the ebola was probably the hardest thing i ever did in mymy life. when you go ovoverseas andnd you have to o prepare for something like ebola, which is a verery violent kind of hemorrhahagic fevever where the body, whwhen infected, litererally leads internally -- bleeds s internal. that was the hardest thing i ever did. very dangerous situation. i wentnt over ththere and i i wt of the team of scientists. i am proud to say we were p part of puttiting the curve intnto te grground. what we did is we went from passive surveillance to active surveillance. being actitive in gettingg out o the communinity and seeeeking cs ahead of time insteaead of peope beining sick and getting the information reported to us. amy: dean seneca, when you hear president trumpmp is ending fufunding for t the worldld heah organization, what is your response? >> thihis is a very ill responsiblee move on behalf of a world that is leading the and go public health. and honest world every facet, economics, m

on defeatinging the ebola outbreak in the eastern congo. the u.s. has invested in the who over the years because it is important to have an international organization that can do those things so that the u.s. does not always have to. experience working closely with the who was in 2014, when i was with usaid, running their disaster operation. became involved with the ebola outbreak in west africa, which everyone remember's. did a poor job on that. the fact that they had initially done a poor job and the u.s. had to come in in a massive way and usaid tomilitary from stop the outbreak, we then invested in a major operation to build a brand-new emergency response capacity there. 2018, when ebola popped up in the eastern congo, the u.s. did not have to do that. the who was able to deploy hundreds of their own personnel into an active war zone to file -- fight the ebola outbreak, successfully that meant less burden on the u.s. government. we have a real interest in continuing to support and invest in these organizations. they do important work that, other

i've been saying that i survived ebola but i fear covid-19.son is because i know the physical exhaustion and the mental anguish that comes with it. you mentioned a bit of it from that piece i wrote five years ago. right now what we're seeing is new protocols every day. teams are adapting. i've never seen so much solidarity in the e.r.people i'm working with on a daily basis. we have attendings from the urology services coming down and helping us out. it's all hands on deck and everyone is getting prepared. the question is is it enough in new york city? were we too late? and can can we adapt quick enough to be able to provide the best call the quality of care turl the patients increasingly coming into our e.r.s that rin creasingly k intubated and put on mechanical ventilation? we know beds are starting to fill up. we know the rate may be decreasing a bit but what we know is there's also a big lag between when people get infected and when they show up and see me and we determine whether or not they need a breathing tube. and that's still many we

in 2014 and 2015, there was the ebola outbreak. in sierra leone, new guinea, and liberia. a lot of the african countries neighboring, but also continent-wide prepared for

ebola is a good example of that. we had a bowl of outbreak since the 1970s but it never had infected more than a few hundred thousand inhabitants before 2013 so when it came up within a few weeks of that it had infected three capital cities with a combined population of nearly 3 million. that's an important reason why it was such a huge conflagration and arguably the seek a virus also takes advantage we've had that since the forties and maybe before that but it was the equatorial forest in asia and africa and carried by a forest mosquito and mostly bit animals, not people that much so people didn't get teethree but right now in america it is being carried by another form of mosquito that specializes in living in human habitations. it can actually breed in a drop of water in a bottle cap so that plastic garbage that we leave around, so as soon as i got into this species it exploded and has expanded rapidly for urban areas especially in the tropics. so then we carry these things around that just started in the 19th cen

that includes things like ebola, marburg, all of the influence us, west nile virus hiv. i think at some length in the book about the ecological origins of the aids pandemic and we now know that the pandemic strain of hiv passed from a single chimpanzee to single human fairly small corner of southeastern camarillo and central africa. in 1908 earlier, give or take, i know that because there are some wonderful scientists who have worked on the genetics. on the viruses that are precursors toys uv, and viruses there in terms of monkeys in the genetics of diversity of hiv one ruben which is that pandemic group of hiv. in these scientists have managed to locate the spillover event with a high degree of confiden confidence, there's oysters and provisionally in science that they have located it to southeastern cameron, one chimpanzee, one human, presumably one human who killed the campaign and then cut himself on the hand and while he was butchering the jumper food and cut his hand and in the very early part of the earliest are around 1908. michael and beatrice on the scientists

that is also a lesson from ebola. while this is a widely different packaging, that is something that was really at the forefront of the ebola response and something that stayed with me as we do safe that, as and dignified burials, that you are not doing that in a way that is transmitting further infections. so i do know that that is going on, and i also know that some of our colleagues in new york and other states as well are working to actually share those lessons with their partners at the state level, so that as we are seeing outbreaks in other states, those are things to consider. and your point about ceo's, we have seen a number -- i want to start with what we have seen so far. we have seen a number of companies that have looked at what it takes to retrofit or have started to make, for example, sanitizer. there are a lot of distilleries to make it.ho look the ford announcement, the ge announcement to make ventilators. we have seen those as well. those things are happening. i think these are difficult decisions. o

: drugs under consideration include the experimental medication remdesivir, originally designed for ebola, and hydrochloroquine, approved to treat malaria. an arthritis drug is being tested to see if it can dampen severe inflammation caused by the vie rurks inflammation that ends up damaging the lungs. >> my breathing was so difficult i felt like i was drowning. >> reporter: dr. anar yukhayev was the trial's first patient. >> the only question i had for the doctors, if you were in my pl d th said yes. of >> reporter: still, you were kind of rolling the dice, weren't you? >> i was.

there has been an ebola outbreak again in central africa, the republic of the congo has an ebola outbreak that killed 3000 people, i think by now and it's still going on. another across the border in uganda, unrelated to the spillover that caused the outbreak democratic republic mcconnell, found has been entered. these things are happening, it's like a drumbeat of disease outbreaks and small crisis. there's another on the arabian peninsula from a virus that emerged that closely resembles the stars virus. it belongs to the same virus, the coronavirus that scared the disease experts in 2003. this new stars like virus out of the arabian peninsula has only killed one person from another man in the hospital in britain but scientists all over the world are watching it carefully. why? they know the next big one could look something like that. so there's a drumbeat of these things. the diseases i've mentioned all have two things in common. they emerge from nonhuman animals and among those that i mentioned, they are caused by viruses. that's a particular profile of the phenomenon. scientists have

listen, you led the ebola response in 2014.resident obama warned us what happened then. >> there may and likely will come a time in which we have both an air bourn disease, that is deadly. and in order for us to deal with that effectively we have to put in place an infrastructure, not just here at home. globally. that allows us to see it quickly, isolate it, respond quickly. so if and when a new strain of flu like the spanish flu pops up, five years from now, or a decade from now, we have made the investment. and we're further along to be able to catch it. >> listen, that was december 2014. this happened in december of 2019. that was five years. what is it like to hear that and realize that the trump administration squandered the warnings. but the time that was bought in january and february of this year. >> it's obviously painful. president obama gave that speech at the national institute of health in the ebola response. where we decided to make investments. not just to fight ebola. but prepare the country for the next one com

. >> fue el primer hospital que recibiÓ enfermos de Ébola en 2014, con la experiencia el hospital enrentar el covid-19. >> mÁs tranquilidad al decir sÍ podemos hacer esto, estamos preparados, listos, lo hizo ips una vez lo podemos hacer otra vez mÁs. >> en diciembre veÍan con preocupaciÓn lo que sucedÍa en wuhan, china de inmediato el personal se entrenÓ para utilizar correctamente el equipo de protecciÓn personal, como no tenÍan suficiente, hicieron sus propias mÁscaras de plastico que protegen mejor que las mascarillas solas, y otro tema importante. >> ayudar a las personas con ansiedad para que no sientan que pueden infectar o sus familiares. >> el hospital estaba listo para la batalla y cinco dÍas despuÉs llegÓ el primer paciente con covid-19 y le salvaron la vida, hasta el momento el hospital ha atendido mÁs de 600 pacientes con covid-19 pero no quiso revelar el nÚmero de personas que han fallecido, tampoco cuÁntos integrantes de su personal se han contagiado, hace cinco aÑos el Ébola fue contenido pero el coronavirus es un animal totalmente diferente, principalmente porque es p

infectious disease experts have been saying, warning about a pandemic since the 80s through sars, mers, ebola. new york and california to the state of the highest tax rate in the country. new york estate california cut back on medical supplies for the states. that's what we are seeing arnold schwarzenegger warning about that when he was governor of california. what is your reaction to that? >> my first reaction is, we are in the heat of the battle here and we should spend our energy on trying to prevent the spread

like this, and then the ebola crisis was able to be contained. we started to glimpse it and look at it, but we never took it to the next step, where we really were starting to plan widespread across the united states for this potential. is certainly a silverlining, looking at this as an opportunity for us to be able to shore up all the things that we need to be doing in every single hospital system, every single public health system, to be able to get prepared, if not for another virus, at least being better prepared for the second wave of this current virus that is ongoing. it also points out a lot of different things, certainly the holes in our public health system. unfortunately, financially public health system has been gutted. need to be able to find people who have this infection and then be able to trace who they have been in contact with. with that, then we can start to contain the spread of this virus. that is usually accomplished by public health departments. our public health department's just don't have the manpower or the money to be

>> yeah, this is the thing that turned the tide against ebola. ebola used to be a death sentence.0% mortality rate, and then once a good antibody solution was made i think 90% of people can walk away. that transformed ebola from a dangerous crisis to a manageable treatment. we've also got antibodies to treat rabies. we've got antibodies to treat rsv in babies. antibodies are used for antivenom. so this is an extremely well-established platform technology and has the advantage that you can produce antibodies much faster than you can make a vaccine. as i mentioned previously on all that modeling come every day counts. preventing an incredible amount of money out of our economy and risking lives they want to have a medicine as quickly as possible. >> tucker: welcome of that is exactly right. assuming this does work, how long would it take to get from your lab to the public? >> well, yeah, and to address the question of skepticism, i'm glad you brought that up. our next move is we have this off to the u.s. military, a contortion of the gates foundation and some private groups, and all

with ebola, we understood a lot about ebola when we started having epidemics. the way that that virus is spread makes it much easier to contain. it's person to person but not related to -- it's not a respiratory infection and there's no aerosolization of the virus. so with this particular virus, because it is spread person to person through droplets and these droplets can travel over a period, we have to have these very blunt measures and one of the -- it's a very delicate situation where we don't have enough info yet. so a national strategy is really important. it's very important. because we are the united states of america and we don't have closed borders and so what we do in one state affects another state. and that's what makes it so complicated. so as we learn more about the virus, the more we'll be able to do to understand how we reopen safely and appropriately and so that we don't have hot spots that are feeding other place as well which is what we've seen. so a national strategy is very important but taking into consideration all of the different place

everyone talks about ebola, covid-19.t you have to remember is this country is in a measles outbreak. while covid-19 presents a problem, you have to look at the basic health structure. many of the hospitals lack basic equipment. they lack toilets. they lack clean water. so it is perhaps the most vulnerable population in africa. >> as you know, i used to be cnn's africa correspondent and anybody who's reported from the continent knows that instability in the conga has a ripple effect across the continent. what does it mean? how important is it that the conga is in the center of africa and this is such a ticking time. >> boomer: in many ways? >> reporter: it's such a dangerous precedent. it's minerally rich. there's a lot of international business. a lot of people look to d.r. congo for guidance. in these communities it's very fragile where as we saw. in a minute they can blame writers. six, seven, eight people a day are accusing me of spreading coronavirus. if you look in the communities, there's a lot of expectation that

we reported the progress on that front has been astoundingly impressive we set the record for ebola in terms of going from starting the program to clinical trials in nine months. for the coronavirus program we're going to be in clinical programs by june, which will be five months, with this very specific targeted approach against the virus. i think there's a lot of reason to have hope for that and more confidence in the target approach than the repurposed drug approach. >> this is morgan brennan. i can't wait to see how all of that plays out it sounds fascinating. i want to take a step back, though, and ask you what is probably a rudimentary question, but when it comes to some of these trials, how do you decide who actually gets the treatment and who gets the placebo i get that it's so important to have a control group in these trials at a time like this it's tougher than usual to make those decisions. >> yeah. first of all, we worked in partnership with the fda, with barda, rapid response arm of the human services, with new york state, the governor's office and what we have to recogni